Unadulterated conversations with a married guy

A foreigner responded to a forum in an adult online community regarding why there are a lot of massage parlors that gives extra service for men but not for women...this reminds me somehow of some of the episodes in the Sex and the City.

HIM
"hiye miss....

you may wanna check in the buy and sell (www.buyandsellph.com). they list plenty of home massage services by men for women and majority of those would offer all the extras. and i bet that they are into it not for money as the rates are much lower than i would be asked to pay for the same from a masseuse.

look under tourism and personal health/care sections.

hope that this satisfies your curiosity. or at least part of it

just be careful in what you do."

HER
"really? in buy and sell? wow. meron ako narinig from a friend yung mga ads ng mga tubero na nakadikit sa poste ng telepono, tinawagan nila tapos yun pala ibang klaseng service pala ang ino-offer nila.

anyway, thanks for the info. and don't worry i don't think i could pay anyone for sex.

i'm just curious since i heard that there are a lot of massage services with extra for men but not for women."


HIM
"sorry. being a stupid foreigner with zero tagalog skills, i could not understand most of what you had to say. would greatly appreciate if you can translate.

if you do check out buy & sell then it may seem to you that there are more massage services with extra for women than for men

i have a feeling that it is just that men probably brag too much. and women know not to brag and how to be discrete.

waiting for a translated version. please..."

HER
"sorry didn't know you were a foreigner...when i checked your profile and found out you were from pasig/mandaluyong i assumed that you're filipino. anyway, to translate what i said minutes ago...

"meron ako narinig from a friend yung mga ads ng mga tubero na nakadikit sa poste ng telepono, tinawagan nila tapos yun pala ibang klaseng service pala ang ino-offer nila"

my friend told me that she called this tubero (plumber) ad that she saw from a telephone post. she called the number thinking it was a legitimate ad. then the person from the other line was offering her a different kind of service.

there :)"


HIM
"wow. didnt know that there were some undercover operators as well. i better be careful with them plumbers in future. don't know what plumbing job they are up to whenever i am away from home.

you know - its good that u dont wanna pay for sex. i tell you it is too much of a hype. to me all of the excitement is in unwrapping the present. the anticipation of what may unfold. paying for the service - what mystrey is in that. you know beforehand that what ur paying for and somehow it is all physical after that.

on the other hand, calling in a massage always has a bit of mystrey attached to it. u dont know who will show up or how the person will try to tempt you into asking for some extras. although extras themselves at the end are really equally meaningless. the foreplay part i love. you may wanna give it a try too.

but you are right - best is going on a date with a hot blooded person. someone who can say no. someone you need to please. as oppose to being served. thats the ultimate.

pasig/mandaluyong is where i am when i am in the philippines. we have a house in the philippines and wife & daughter live there. while i keep going in and out.

may be i should look you up next time i am there. may be could meet up for a meal or something."

HER
"it's true that it's better that you go through the normal process of dating and having an intimate relationship. having something you worked very hard for is really worthwhile and very meaningful as oppose to something you get very easy. i want that to. but with the present times i dont think its going to happen soon unless you create an opportunity for it to happen.

and you can't blame guys or girls to look for something that is readily available. with the present times and the permitting society where you cannot distinguish anymore the real guys or girls from the fake ones, it is just very tempting. as with my case, real good men are hard to find. they are either taken or they're gay.

for such a temporary thing, i don't think its hard for us girls to get something we want for free with no attachments whatsoever. there are a lot of guys out there who are committment phobic and really it is very easy to just hook up with them get over with it and then leave. but why would i want that? it is so easy to give in with the carnal pleasures but in the long run i know i would also be needing something that would fill up my spiritual pleasures as well...love and passion for someone you know you can have for a life time.

the reality is at the end of the day, we're just looking for someone whom we can go home to, talk to, hold hands, hug and kiss, and make love passionately for as long as we live.

so what are you doing here at mtc?"


HIM
"what am i doing here at the mtc? in response, i could copy paste your response with some minor edits and that would describe why i am here. while i did say that the paid sex is boring - i have reached that conclusion after being around the block. like most other men, i too have been a mere mortal and a pig. so been into sideways, although have a wonderful wife.

but mtc has not really been the place for me to look for a one night stand. mtc is a bit too close to home. and it has worked out well as i do spend a considerable amount of time away. but who knows i may find the type of one night stand that u described. or an fubu with no strings attached."


HER
"what i dont understand is why you're looking for a fubu? doesnt your wonderful wife gives you all the sexual pleasures that you need?"

HIM
"hmmmm.... got me there. now thats a tough one. i could beat around the bush, but i won't. i think that it is more like that the relationship has sort of transformed. girlfriend/wife after more than 15 years of married life has transformed into a mother. the initial stage when we were discovering each other and had surprises for each other has phased away. and not much flirting left between us. - and i miss that. so keep looking around, but so far disappointed as everything turns out the same. perhaps i am reaching the very end of the explorer phase and should transform myself too."

HER
"you seem to have really explored a lot of stuff...but what are you really looking for in a relationship? because as you said and i assumed that even if you have had partners before everything seems to be the same. there's no more excitement for you.

if you miss flirting with the wife, why not do something and flirt with her again? make your sex life more exciting. do something together without the kids. you can leave the kids with their nannies. i know for a fact that kids may take most of the attention from your wife that should have been yours but why not try to re-discover the things both of you would really love to do and bring back the flame you had with her when you were just getting to know her?

as i see it, you are trying to look for something you had with your wife from other people. but since they are not your wife, you still could not get the satisfaction you want. your expectations will never be met because what you want really they cannot give you...they're just a temporary means of satisfying your curiousity, your sense of adventurism and of trying to look for something new.

have you ever thought that you have already exhausted everything about your sex life? unless you want to try men this time, that will be a whole different kind of experience."

HIM
"you are absolutely correct. i have reached sort of the same conclusions. what i have been looking from all this exploration has been what i was missing in my relationship. and a relationship was a no-no for me. i love my wife and another relationship was certainly something i can not afford to have.

now if i say that i have stopped everything or will from now on then that would be dishonest. as just can't resist flirting if i see someone nice. i suppose it will take me some time and little more effort to get over this.

so tell me that how is it that you are so wise. have you been around the block as well or is it something you were born with?"

HER
"or you can put all your efforts and energy in pleasing your wife instead of flirting with some nice girl you know you would not get much of.

as for your question/compliment, i am a non-practicing counseling psychologist. i have dealt with couples with marital problems. i'm not married but i think i gained the wisdom from what i see and experienced by my parents, my friends, and from all the clients i have worked with in the past."

HIM
"so u mean got counseling and i didnt even have to pay for it

dont tell me you have cured more of the guys you went out with

nice chatting and thanks again for the suggestions."


HER
"in a way, yes.

regarding the guys i went out with...no, they have different issues and some were mostly out there because of lust. besides they were never married. i don't go out with married guys because i believe in the sanctity of marriage. if i do get out with one it's because i did not know he is married. i also stay away from guys whom i know have girlfriends because i also believe in karma.

and it was kind of fun for me to meet those guys. i get fun out of observing their behaviors, their actions, the language they are using (verbal and non-verbal) just to have you for sex. and how their faces would squirm, i dont know if this is because of the thought that they would get blue balls or just get really really disappointed or embarassed when you said the big 2 letter word in their faces. i know its kind of sadistic but it was fun.

and so, on the last note, if ever you would be needing an opinion over anything under the sun or would like to solicit suggestions...you can just drop me a line.

it was also nice chatting with you. at least i get to practice my craft even for just a bit"

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